NanoStudio V1.30 alpha for OS X and Windows now available!

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Blip Interactive
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*** PLEASE NOTE *** The V1.30 beta is now available. Please go here instead:

http://forums.blipinteractive.co.uk/node/2443

*** COMMENTS ON THE OLD ALPHA VERSION BELOW ***

Blip Interactive
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FOR OS X USERS:

1. When you first run the app from the disk image, you may need to check the box which says, "Don't warn me when opening applications on this disk image". If you don't do this, the phone/tablet versions may not start up.

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nano studio desktop and tablet version crashes as soon as I launch them. iPhone version works.

I'm on OSX 10.7.2

Error is:-
21/11/2011 15:55:41.040 com.apple.launchd.peruser.501: ([0x0-0x2b02b].co.uk.blipinteractive.NanoStudio[406]) Job appears to have crashed: Bus error: 10

Blip Interactive
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Hmm strange. If you can spare the time, is there any chance you could mail me a crash report? There are instructions for how to find them here:

http://serato.com/articles/scratchlive/6600/how-to-get-a-crash-log-in-ma...

The file should be called something like NanoStudio(some numbers).crash

You can send it to contact@blipinteractive.co.uk

Thanks!

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Okay. Have mailed the crash report.

Blip Interactive
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Thanks so much - do you know what your screen resolution is set to?

cyberheater
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1280 x 800. It's a 13inch macbook pro.

Sven
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All 3 work fine on OSX 10.6.8 (snow leopard)

Since I've been recently playing with Thumbjam the new scales are a welcome addition... I would suggest a bit of color coding like they do for the natural 5ths and stuff.
Apart from that.. I'm just starting to dig in. :D

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Do we have enough room to do the effects presets in the mixer now? please please :)

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I've tested both Windows and OS X and they both work fine.

Windows XP Professional
OS X 10.7.2

I'll try Windows 7 on my lunch break, but so far so good. I'll try to put a track together also to see if I run into any bugs.

But so far so good. Looks like I'll be selling my iPod Touch 4 to get an iPad :-)

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Ok, so this version has to be in Documents/Nanostudio? I tried putting it into a different folder – main app works as expected but the iPad and iPhone versions say "The files /2.3 and /Alpha/Nanostudio.app do not exist."

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@ munichdobe

What type of mac have you got?

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Works great on both my XP & Windows 7 machines :-D

Thanx!!! Love Nanostudio.

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@ cyberheater

I'm running a 2011 mac mini.

tom_tm
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Brilliant! Cheers for all the hard work Matt! :)

Blip Interactive
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@cyberheater - I haven't got your mail yet but I'm working along the lines of screen resolution vs. the app's desired window size being the issue. It's the most likely common factor between the tablet and desktop version.

@Stiksi - It's taken me most of the day to hack together the 'phone' and 'tablet' options on the Mac and maybe they're still not quite right. Make sure that the three 'apps' (NanoStudio-Phone.app, NanoStudio-Tablet.app, Nanotudio.app) are in the same folder. On Windows it was as simple as two shortcuts to run the main app with the right options, but on OS X I had to write an app to call an app and then jump through some silly hoops to work out what folder they're in. Complete nonsense. If you wish, you can probably run the tablet/phone versions from Terminal with something like this:

open NanoStudio.app --args -phone
open NanoStudio.app --args -tablet

... making sure you're in the right directory first, or prepend the full path to 'NanoStudio.app' in the examples above.

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Matt, is there a reason for the faders being so short? I found the previous faders not that high in resolution. Is that anything to do with it?

Also in the song screen, the part move and extend edit buttons do appear to be rather close to each other. Do you think they should be slightly wider apart?

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ps 'resolution', I mean audio resolution- not graphics :)

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Hey, thxs to you for this new version. It seems to work great on an imac 3.06GHz Intel Core i3 with mac os x 10.6.7. Will try this at home tonight.
Excellent job and excellent app!!!!!!!!!

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@tom_tm - Are you talking about the faders on the desktop version? If so, then yes they could probably do with getting stretched as the window increases in size but the desktop isn't my priority right now. The faders are pretty well as large as they can be on the phone and tablet versions running at 480x320 and 1024x768, which you can trial yourself by running these versions and not resizing the window from its initial value.

The drag handles could probably be moved out a little more on the tablet version. I wanted them fairly close to the centre so you can go in either direction from their initial positions.

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I agree with tom_tm about the part move/extend on the iPad version being too close together. I don't see it being too much of a problem the way it is, but I think with the extra space it wouldn't hurt to move them away from each other just a bit.

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I'm getting the crash you mentioned on a 1200x800 mbp. If I run it from the command line, I get this error (in case it's revealing or something):
Bus error: 10

I love(!!!) that you can drag both keyboards arbitrarily in the dual view.

Blip Interactive
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I reckon 'Bus Error: 10' is about as useful as those Star Trek computers which say 'insufficient data, does not compute' :)

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Matt...

I was referring to the desktop version mirroring the iPad version- ie this is what the iPad version will eventually look like. Maybe I missed something concerning the two in a previous post? I thought they were the same- until you pointed out that the handles could be dragged for resizing- something you wouldn't be able to do on the iPad version! hehe.

But it would be nice to be able to do a nice gentle fade in/out rather than there being a point where you can tell an audible difference between 'signal on' and 'signal off' (I'm too used to analogue mixing desks!)

I'm not really bothered about the desktop version as I am with the iPad version either. :)

"The drag handles could probably be moved out a little more on the tablet version. I wanted them fairly close to the centre so you can go in either direction from their initial positions."

Yes, good point. It's up to you of course, but I know some people do have fatter fingers! ;)

Tom

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As you point out, the iPad can't be resized! By running the 'NanoStudio Tablet' version and leaving the window size alone, this is what you'll be getting on the iPad.

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Am I dreaming or do mutes work instantaneously now? Wow!

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Loving the iPad look great work.

From a personal performance point of view on the iPad I would love to have the loop button visible at all times rather than having it in the drop down menu as I use it quite a lot in live performance. Or maybe an option to keep it displayed if desired. The undo is less important when performing live.

EDIT: Should have looked at the iPad screen shots first, as it looks like you've already done it. Brilliant.

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V1.3 Alpha-2 is now available for OS X. This should fix the problem of the app crashing on startup for display resolutions of 1280x800 or less.

Download NanoStudio V1.3 alpha-2 for OS X

Please note that if you run the tablet/desktop versions on very low resolution displays (800x600 or less), you will probably find that the touch (er, mouse) position no longer lines up correctly, but this something to fix in future once the iOS version is finished.

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Runs Perfectly on win7 64bit. old projects start and run fine.

i can only hope that you implement some new things too if it will become a paid update from
iphone to ipad

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I know this is probably asking too much... but a spectrum analyzer would make make this the greatest app on the planet. I mean, it already is but that would make it that much better :-)

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Even though it's a free update for iPad owners, I think you should figure out a way to charge twinsinmind.

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Yay. It works :)

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Do not get me wrong dude... but i just asked and paid second time for the 16 track update.
so its not that i don't wanna pay. I am PRO paying but what if ....

i just paid for 16 tracks in iphone version on my ipad 2
i already paid the app and the upgrade on my ipod

now i would pay for the update from this to ipad which will be a totally new app..
so then again we should pay for the 16 tracks option...

Resulting me paying The app = twice
the upgrade = three times

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I feel you, that would blow. I was just being snarky. rejoice: it's free.

The extra paying you did was presumably because of different iTunes accounts on each device and apple's rules/setup, not blip's.

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works fine on my old macbook pro 15 inch with snow leopard.
small but very useful enhancements. zoombuttons (i am not sure maybe i just havent seen them before) are a great addition as even after getting into the workflow i found myself struggeling with switching between move/zoom and edit tools.

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Is this a bug : the scales have no effect when you use a external midi keyboard, they work only with the buil-in keyboard...

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Oh, the new button on the Eden keyboard, that move the keyboard note by note : it has no effect ! (i'm on Windows XP).

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Sorry, I have just understood how this button work, all is fine !

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works fine on my OSX 10.7.2 ..

everything looks great except of one thing which is for me big dissapointment :-( height of tracks in sequencer track view .. they are too big .. i was hoping that it will be possible to have lot more tracks in view displayed, with tracks with small height .. Why is this still limited to just to max 6 tracks ?

all other parts are great and can't wait for having this on my ipad. . just vertical track zoom in track view is disapointment for me :-(

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@Dendy - you can zoom out in the song editor to see all 128 tracks if you wish. How many track do you have in your song? It will limit the zoom according to the number of tracks you have.

@pquenin - The scales are via the UI only currently.

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aaah i'm dumb :-))) sorry, i had today hard work day and my brain is don't working anymore :-)) i added new instruments into project and now i see zoom works as expected ... sooryy..

then.. everything is perfect :-)

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Perfect? Come on, I know you guys too well now .. there's always 'just one more thing' :)

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What I really appreciate on the iPad version, is that you don't have to scroll all the Eden pages to change the presets...
But the pitch bend wheel is still not visible on some pages, maybe you can add a setting to have the pitch bend wheel on the lower or upper keyboard...
I'm am also used to have a modulation wheel...

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Matt: What i found really awesome is the way how you rearranged things so now at lot places there is lot new free space to add new awesome features :-) i think at least next one - two years you don't need make any big changes in GUI interface and you will able without problem to add new features and tweaks .. the main goal for this update was removing GUI limits and make it universal - from this point of view you was 100% sucessfull and it IS perfect, or really close (99.99%) to perfection.. also when i compare gui and layout of control elements to other nowaday DAWs on iPad (i buyed all of them :-)), Nanostudio is leader, without any discussion ..

other stuff from wishilst task, okay there is lot ideas for improvement, everybody wants something small, there will be still new and new requests - that's normal :) .. there also also few major big tasks (audio tracks, midi out) - which will be maybe goals more for 2.0 version than 1.x .. that is future .. but the graphical redesign, which you did, is simply great ...

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Cheers dude. It really has felt like a law of diminishing returns with regards to UI space. I remember when I already thought it was fully loaded when V1.0 came out, yet somehow a load more stuff has gone in. I'll admit to finding the universal thing really, really difficult. Nothing ever seemed to fit on any one page properly, or if it did, I'd end up with some controls left over looking lonely on their own. Or alternately, I'd do something which made sense on the iPad only to find I was faced with a new problem on the phone. Also, I didn't want things to differ so radically between devices that writing alternate manuals became a massive chore or giving support got confusing. I'm actually quite glad it's almost over :)

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get it out there Blip, i think its release ready.
ofcourse there are always new things we would like to see.... midi out , vst support lol etc...
but its ipad not pc.

So its already the best sequencer on iphone..... i am happy what with you have now.
Once you released it you can concentrate without pressure to add new things over time.

btw: i excuse myself if i sounded like i don't wanna spent money. but i would prefer to
spent the whole money on you and not on apple who take a big part of the income.

What about making a "donate button"?

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Almost - just found a bug in the tablet/desktop version where the TRG pad name doesn't update after you've recorded a sample. I'm sure there are others!

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I put this in the wrong thread before so here it is again.

Thanks Matt, a nice update which adds some really useful features. Looking forward to getting the mixer mutes/solos on my iPod Touch!

I've been playing with it for a while on my laptop and have a couple of suggestions:

All Versions.
Scrolling keyboard. This is a great feature but I personally think it would be better to have the octave shift buttons to the left and right of the keyboard where the new icons are and put those where the oct shift buttons currently are with scale select above slide lock.

Windows Version.
Now that you have some dedicated buttons for the Mixer, Sequencer and Manage page I wondered if it might be possible to associate those more closely to the buttons on the Synthstation 25 in some way so that they mimic the placement and behaviour, e.g. if you hid the tempo and quantize buttons perhaps you could shuffle everything to the left and have 4 dedicated buttons on the top right of the screen that work exactly the same way as the SS25 buttons. Dare I suggest framing them with an orange glow to indicate selection?
I think this would make it very intuative to use when continuing with a project that was started on iPhone and SS25.

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I imagine it's related to what you've already discovered but the trg pad name doesn't update when you've done a 'save as' after editing an existing sample either - desktop version anyway.

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Sorry for being dense, but I just downloaded the new OSX build, and installed it over the previous build. Double clicking the tablet shortcut brings up a window to say that the app doesn't exist (although clicking the main app file works fine). Anyone know what I'm doing wrong?

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whatfor is the dark grey empty space in the mixer below the four effects, over the effects chain?
more effects to come? maybe its a resolution problem on the laptop or is there room to make the faders longer?

anyway, it runs good under win7/64.
regards jan

edit: i see, i have to scroll in the ipad version