I'm done with iOS.

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alphacat
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I'm done. My love affair with iOS is officially over.

Got an iPhone 7 and attempted to restore the full backup from previous device (6): it kept telling me my password was incorrect, but... I know my password. I've only ever had 2 passwords for all iThings. Same attempt using 2 different PC's and a Mac: fail.

I even reset the password (twice), uninstalled/reinstalled iTunes (per Apple advice) - no dice. All of my NanoStudio project files - basically gone unless I want to export every single one individually.

The last bit of advice they came back with?

"Buy a new computer... " except that I still lose my full backup.

So yeah. It's been OK while it lasted, but now I supremely regret spending a single fucking cent on this company. My old Apple-hate has resumed with a vengeance. Not like Android is a viable option... just want something that really just works.

Because Apple is officially no longer the "it just works" company.

tom_tm
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Sounds like you just need to flog the phone, and use the cash for a nice holiday instead. ;-)

shimmy
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I feel your pain about iOS. I sold my iPhone and iPad. Moved to android and used the Caustic app. It's fun. But, I miss using Nanostudio.
Once Nanostudio 2 comes out, I'll probably buy an iPad only to run Nanostudio 2 and nothing else.

Maybe Matt is working on manufacturing an EDEN HARDWARE SYNTH !!!!! I would pay $1000 or whatever for one !!!!

Stiksi
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Eden hardware synth… I could get behind this! 2 osc wavetable synth plus sampling capability in the same package with a complete patchbay and a waveshaper / bitcrush and chorus / flanger / delay (and maybe a plate reverb). If it could be done at around 500 €, it would be pretty tempting.

Does one of you oscillatorheads know if one exists already?

shimmy
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Don't forget about the wood side panels :-)

Blip Interactive
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I'd love to make a hardware synth at some point, but it'd be a one-off hobby project.

I'd probably go for a microcontroller driven hardware interface (eg. Arduino or something with a bit more grunt and IO like the Teensy Pro) which sends control events to a custom version of the app. The app could run on an old iPad mounted just behind the front panel, which would also form the touch display part of the interface. I'd have to work out how to get the app to boot automatically - could probably do that with a Jailbroken device. Communication with the microcontroller could be handled by making it emulate a generic USB MIDI interface which it uses to pass custom messages via sysex.

... and returning to the original gripe, this would probably a be lot easier on an Android tablet since it supports USB OTG for direct communication with custom USB devices (such as the Teesy Pro), and you can configure apps to autoboot as soon as their recognised USB device is plugged in!

Of course most of the work would go into choosing the correct vintage veneer for the obligatory wooden end cheeks. Although Bakelite would probably be more hipster given the time it's going to be before I ever get round to such a project.

syrupcore
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Joined: 09/26/2010

Veneer. Pfft.

Stiksi
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If you go bakelite, you need to go all the way, not just endcheeks! Also, we need a rotating dial from an old phone to select presets, so we can dial in presets, har.

And you'd have to have a jailbroken iPad or it would be so full of Apple nagware you'd never get anything done. Seriously, that update nag is making me switch to Android.

Sooo, late 2018 then? (focus on this, we can wait a little longer for NS2)

gr1m
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"Seriously, that update nag is making me switch to Android."

amen.

Blip Interactive
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It is a joke.

After a week of tapping 'no' to 'are you sure?' followed by 'really no' to 'are you really sure?' I inevitably tapped yes by mistake. Immediately the phone shuts down and starts updating. When it comes back up, I need to restore it. To do that, I need to update iTunes. When I think I'm back up and running, I find out that XCode no longer works with this version. After a multi-gig download, lengthy installation, full rebuild, fixing issues and half my afternoon gone I'm back up and running.

The obvious approach would be:

- Ask to update
- If no, do nothing
- If yes, warn that it will take out half your afternoon and ask if you're really sure

.. but it's not like that, by careful design.

gr1m
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Joined: 09/21/2010

IOS is getting worse year by year. If I wasn't knee deep in music apps I'd contemplate a change.
Seriously, can anybody navigate an email thread in the IOS mail app without a single curse word?

Sorry for moving the cross hairs here.

/rant

Slam-Cut
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Joined: 09/07/2011

People are still using the iOS Mail App?
The GMail app works sweet.
...if you want to stop the headaches.

gr1m
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Appreciate it Slam-Cut. But I keep using the Mail App because one word....Courage.

Blip Interactive
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It takes courage to be courageous.

Slam-Cut
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What Blip said.

Stiksi
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@ Slam-Cut: I tried to use the Gmail app, but it doesn't work well with other apps, for example, I can't open shopping lists my wife sends me. There were also a few other gripes that meant I had to open the mail app regularly, which inevitably lead to just getting rid of the Gmail app because two apps for email is just annoying. It's pretty good, but doesn't work for me.

On the other hand, Mail app regularly refuses to send mail, which is nice.

Slam-Cut
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Hmm. If using Gmail App prevented my wife's shopping lists, I'd consider that a feature.
Gmail updates regularly. May be worth checking to see what the compatability issue was. My wife sends lists as texts. I know that is so 2012, but we aren't hip to the newest automatically synced cross-platform Lists apps, so we struggle almost like the Quakers do. I just wish she'd keep all the produce together in one section of the list. :o/

Stiksi
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Hah, I know how annoying it is to have to go back to the produce section, and it's always such a labyrinth. Oh well, 1st world problems, I guess…

Now I remember the other problem I had. There was too much swiping, it's not good on an SE, too easy to make mistakes. And kept missing important mails because the notifications didn't work right, and I hated the colour scheme. Which you can't change.

Seems I can manufacture problems on demand, now who doesn't like that in a man?

Slam-Cut
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Every company needs a Senior Executive Problem Manufacturer, so you might be in a good position for a promotion within your company.
It is somehow a bit humorous to know that men in California and Finland share the same first-world shopping problems. It's a wonder that we can manage to feed ourselves with these sorts of challenges.

Stiksi
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Haha, I already hold that position. Unfortunately, I also have the position of Senior Executive Problem Solver, would be cool to outsource that. I have more positions than the Kama Sutra.

Slam-Cut
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"I have more positions than the Kama Sutra."

Sounds like a fun job.

Stiksi
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Technically self-employment is not even a job, but I can't deny it's fun most of the time.

Slam-Cut
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Self-employed Kama Sutra Specialist? Wow. So much more fun than a corporate position.

Stiksi
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"Self-employed Kama Sutra Specialist" Ok, now that sounds like a euphemism for a wanker.

Slam-Cut
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HA HA!! Now that's funny!

darwiniandude
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Did you backup/restore using iCloud? iTunes backups can fail for many reasons. Which password is the problem? If your backup is encrypted with a password, you can't backup/restore without that password. Tried the pin code you use for your phone? The one you used to use?

Gmail app is a Google silo, it's useless. I can't attach files to emails, I can't email photos from the photos app, attach files from iCloud Drive, drop box etc. Gmail app doesn't use the iOS document picker for opening of saving. I can't save attachements locally. It's just a little window into Google's world. Which is fine if that's what you want, but if you do, just use Android.

My wife was writing an email in the gmail app (she uses mail normally but her work account is setup in the gmail app) and wanted to attach a PDF stored in the Good Reader app. In the mail app, you just tap and hold, Add attachment, and browse to the app name (Good Reader) and pick the PDF file stored in that app to attach. Gmail app doesn't support this, or any iOS conventions.

Neither does NanoStudio either, as it's so old now. It doesn't support the iOS document picker either.

iOS document picker was added to iOS 8 back in 2014... save and open files between apps and any cloud service that has support (eg drop box) doesn't have to be iCloud Drive.

Fair enough iOS has it's faults but using software which doesn't support basic open/save anywhere functionality that Apple added 2.5 years ago is the problem. Your NanoStudio files should have been automatically synced to iCloud, except that option isn't offered by NanoStudio, or the ability to save elsewhere in the document picker.

I just came here today to see if NanoStudio was going to get an update before it doesn't work anymore in iOS 11 later this year.

Meanwhile I was sequencing music on the C64 last night using MSSIAH cartridge and MixSID dual sid 8580 boards... just in case you think I only use recent stuff :)

darwiniandude
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Apologies for my snarkiness above. Not having a good day - and I am looking forward to paying for NanoStudio 2 should it appear :)

Slam-Cut
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@ darwiniandude: yes NS is old, however it does have 'open in' for important music related things, although I don't think it covers everthing but it does at least work with .nsp files. There will not be any updates to NS, but NS2 is scheduled to drop around the time iOS 11 hits us upside the head.

The Gmail app has a paper clip icon in the upper right hand corner of the email you are composing. Press that and you can add photos from the iPhone photo app. The attachment pop-up window at the bottom can be scrolled down to My Drive where you can select PDFs or Word Files, and whatnot. I use Gmail on PC so for me the app is perfect, and I like that it doesn't follow the iOS conventions too closely.

Hope you are having a better day.

darwiniandude
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Attaching photos has been in iOS since probably 2009. What it didn't have was a universal file storage option that could be extended by third parties (eg Google, Dropbox) but it has now had this since 2014.

You should be able to tap the paper clip and see this:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/68og0l09wpiyzir/Attach%20files%20sheet.jpeg?dl=0

The line that says "Drive" is Google Drive as shown by the icon, Google hasn't set the description properly. So mail supports saving/attaching files from anywhere, Gmail app only supports doing the same from Google Drive. The Google Drive app DOES support the system wide file picker though, so you have to open that app, add the file into Google Drive from wherever else it is, then you can use it in Gmail app. Works but a bit annoying, hopefully they add proper attachment support to Gmail for iOS.

Slam-Cut
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Oh.

shimmy
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Joined: 07/22/2010

Yelp, I am back on iOS. I got the iPhone SE 32gb. $399. I will miss alot of Androids customization and Micro SD expansion. But, won't miss the weak battery life on the Android phones and lack of security updates. Downsizing from an Android 5" screen to this iPhone 4" screen is not as bad as I thought it would be. I really like the small phone vs. a larger phone. I hope I can stretch the life of this iPhone for 5 years. We'll see.